The Alien Quadrilogy

Adrian · Post by **Adrian** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:07 pm

Im just a great fan of the Alien movies and love the plot. I watched "Alien 3" again and started to think about if the Mythos could link to it. Could the Aliens be in the Cthulhu Minions family tree?

PS. Does anyone know about Alien 5 or is it just another rumor.

E.A. Lovecraft · Post by **E.A. Lovecraft** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:29 pm

I love all the Alien flics, even the unfairly panned Alien 3. Haven't heard about a fifth addition to the franchise, though.

I'd rather see Alien: Resurrection get a new ending than see a whole new movie.

A great thing about the Mythos is that just about anything can link to it; especially deadly extraterrestrials with acid for blood. The aliens seem custom made for Lovecraft's dark universe.

Adrian · Post by **Adrian** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 4:38 am

E.A. Lovecraft wrote:I love all the Alien flics, even the unfairly panned Alien 3. Haven't heard about a fifth addition to the franchise, though.

I'd rather see Alien: Resurrection get a new ending than see a whole new movie.

Every Alien movie had something that made it best of the rest and with A3 i think it was Lynch's ability to put the desolate scenery, hopeless characters and a dark bondage between Ripley and the Alien together.

A4 ending was a bit lame yeah. It ma de my sad when the part-human part-alien got sucked out

That shouldnt have happened.

E.A. Lovecraft · Post by **E.A. Lovecraft** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 2:58 pm

Adrian wrote:Every Alien movie had something that made it best of the rest and with A3 i think it was Lynch's ability to put the desolate scenery, hopeless characters and a dark bondage between Ripley and the Alien together.

That's almost an understatement. Thatmovie's sense of desolation and helplessness falls on you like a ton of bricks, and it rarely lets up for a breather.

If Alien 3 had been the first of the franchise, it would have done a lot better at the box office. It's greatest faults were that it didn't really expand on the aliens and it followed Aliens.

Adrian wrote:A4 ending was a bit lame yeah. It ma de my sad when the part-human part-alien got sucked out
That shouldnt have happened.

You're right. I thought the baby alien itself was pretty stupid, but feeling sorry for it didn't help.

I'm waiting for Alien vs Predator to hit the local discount theater. It's been getting a pretty bad rap, and the fight scene that was released online a couple weeks ago was a bit disappointing, but what the hell. I'm a sucker for watching aliens in any setting.

Adrian · Post by **Adrian** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:02 pm

I know AvP will be entertaining but maybe they should have been kept apart? I know in P2 the Pred had an Alien skull in its trophy section. But that would also mean that the goverment guys in P2 would be Weyland-Yutani men. Isn't it the central idea of AvP that Lars Hendriksson (mispelled it probably) who plays Weyland starts a company dedicated to hunt and capture Aliens and/or Preds? He even creates droids after his imagine and probably clones himself in A3. But bringing the Pred to fist it out with Alien... Dunno... A blow below the belt for some fans?

nortonew · Post by **nortonew** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:56 pm

E.A. Lovecraft wrote:
Adrian wrote:Every Alien movie had something that made it best of the rest and with A3 i think it was Lynch's ability to put the desolate scenery, hopeless characters and a dark bondage between Ripley and the Alien together.
Aliens had desolate scenery and hopeless characters? Heck, I thought it was just being unusually realistic...

E.A. Lovecraft · Post by **E.A. Lovecraft** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:43 pm

Adrian wrote:I know AvP will be entertaining but maybe they should have been kept apart? I know in P2 the Pred had an Alien skull in its trophy section. But that would also mean that the goverment guys in P2 would be Weyland-Yutani men.

I don't think they would have to have been Weyland-Yutani agents. But it wouldn't be a big stretch of the imagination for the Company to have caught wind of and purchased information from the G-men.

Adrian wrote:Isn't it the central idea of AvP that Lars Hendriksson (mispelled it probably) who plays Weyland starts a company dedicated to hunt and capture Aliens and/or Preds? He even creates droids after his imagine and probably clones himself in A3. But bringing the Pred to fist it out with Alien... Dunno... A blow below the belt for some fans?

I don't know. The most I've heard is that his company discovered the Temple beneath the ice, and Weyland (whose middle name or nickname is "Bishop") has organized an archaeoligical expedition as a sort of last hurrah (he's dying). Maybe Yutani is the evil one?

Adrian · Post by **Adrian** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:11 pm

I don't know. The most I've heard is that his company discovered the Temple beneath the ice, and Weyland (whose middle name or nickname is "Bishop") has organized an archaeoligical expedition as a sort of last hurrah (he's dying). Maybe Yutani is the evil one?

In the pyramid they may discover technology for cloning ot prolonging life, because in A3 the Bishop who appears says he's a human being and created the droids in his image.

Post by **Aleister** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:13 pm

I always liked the Predator movies. The Alien series was ok, but I just never got into it that much. I honestly don't know if I have seen any of them all the way though.

I guess I need to check them out sometime so I will know what you all are talking about

Adrian · Post by **Adrian** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:38 pm

And its hard to see a P3 movie coming out, too. P2 wrapped it up quite nicely with the spaceship ending. If the next part wants to evolve then it would have to happen on the Predator's planet.

Post by **Aleister** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:51 pm

It's been a while since I've even seen P2. Did the guy pretty much beat the P so they left the Earth feeling beat? Or did the P cheat (go against their rules) and so they took him away? Or am I completely off ?

Adrian · Post by **Adrian** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 4:05 pm

Aleister wrote:It's been a while since I've even seen P2. Did the guy pretty much beat the P so they left the Earth feeling beat? Or did the P cheat (go against their rules) and so they took him away? Or am I completely off ?

Glover beat him by wasting the Pred with his own disc. The other Preds honoured Glovers victory by letting him live and even gave him an old pistol as a trophy (interesting to know to whom that belonged - P3 could be set in the past in some colony or somewhere in the 1700's). The movie ended with the goverement guys asking Glover what the hell happened, the Preds took off in their ship which was in the sewers or an old railway tunnel.
PS. I always found it mind-boggling how any alien spacecraft could undetectedly get into a metropolis?

Post by **Aleister** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 4:29 pm

Ah... that all sounds familiar now

I don't know if they would set P3 that far in the past. It wouldnt give them as much reason to use high-tech special effects. Theres only so much a canon can do

Adrian · Post by **Adrian** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 4:45 pm

But the absence of explosions and gunfire could be a fresh breeze in the scifi genre. It could be set in the Carribeans with pirates and whatnot. There has to be a reasonable hero that the Pred would consider worthy to hunt. Maybe in the newly discovered USA? Somewhere in the 1700 there are conflicts between native americans and european conqueros. Or aztecs vs spanish vs Pred? Aztecs have temples like in the AvP movie

Post by **Aleister** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 4:52 pm

So Johnny Depp vs. Predator? *grin*