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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:16 pm
by Jesus Prime
I likes me string theory.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:10 pm
by Adrian
Just my vision of things, but both DD and HPL Mythology involve String Theory, which is crucial for both of them.

ST is the central part of the Mythos, as it is scientific basis for time travelling. In fact many have proposed the Old Ones are humans from the future. Be that as it may, ST almost proves that there are maybe hundreds of different dimensions just an inch away from our noses and shows how you can "bend" time and move between spheres.

In DD the string theory is concsioussly taken to account as to serve you the story. Worm-holes and time paradigm's show how some force from the future (an all-powerful force, maybe God, maybe future humans with enormous scientific knowledge) opens up a gate (abyss) because of a terrible event (occurrance of a tangient universe/the stars are right) and strange entities haunt the protagonist. Eventually, as in HPL's "Dreams In The Witch-House", the main character, is destined to, or driven to by forces that seem evil or weird, to a climax resulting in the death of the main caharcter. With sacrificing himself something worse will be stopped from happening.

That may sound a bit weak or crappy. Anyway of course there are no literal connections between HPL's stories and DD, it's just that the central philosophy is almost totally the same. Just the same view given a different spin and manages to stay even more original.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:10 pm
by Jesus Prime
So no Deep Ones round the corner?

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:50 pm
by Aleister
At least a Deep One would be less creepy than the bunny.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 7:33 pm
by Acooljt
Deep Ones?

Also, I almost feel like Lovecraft's work has now been degraded after being compared to Donnie Darko. :(

I have yet to read the Dreams in the Witch House(don't ruin it for me! :evil: ) but someone sacrificing themself doesn't seem to have any correlation to string theory(which I still don't understand cause that website didn't have 1 explanation, but all kinds of them, they didn't want to actually define it for you, they just wanted to give you a lot of clues :evil: ).

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:40 pm
by JJ Burke
the common ground between mythos and darko (and quantum physics) is that you are urged to question the boundaries of reality and the potential consequences, good or bad, of wandering outside the concentric sphere of consensus. this further provokes examination of the relationship between the inside and outside of the self, and how that might be applied as a microcosm of our universe.

i wouldn't lump them into the same species of story, but they're related at some other level.. genus? phylum? they share thematic elements, that's what i'm trying to say.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:28 pm
by Acooljt
Well yeah, but do you know how many other countless books, TV shows, and movies that have the very same thing? That's a pretty broad connection that almsot anything could fit under if viewed correctly.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:22 am
by JJ Burke
i can think of many that attempt the same thing. donnie darko did a better than average job, in my opinion, and of course hpl was a master of it. i'm not sure if i'd put them in the same league.. if that's your real question

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:45 am
by Adrian
I'm trying to point out that DD is in essence the same as HPL's "idea" of space-time contiuum and such. I don't know any other movies / stories, that have things similar in the light of this DD/HPL crossover.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 4:03 pm
by Jesus Prime
Acooljt wrote:I have yet to read the Dreams in the Witch House(don't ruin it for me! :evil: )
It was the butler!

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:42 pm
by Acooljt
I can think of two right now, Buffy the Vampire Slayer(the series) and Angel(the spin-off from Buffy).
Jesus Prime wrote:
Acooljt wrote:I have yet to read the Dreams in the Witch House(don't ruin it for me! :evil: )
It was the butler!
Was it in the dining room with the candlestick?

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:51 am
by JJ Burke
yes, that's the kind of mediocrity i meant. i hope we can agree that donnie darko excels in comparison. probably falls short of hpl, but it's still a few notches up from the wb.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:16 pm
by Jesus Prime
Acooljt wrote:I can think of two right now, Buffy the Vampire Slayer(the series) and Angel(the spin-off from Buffy).
Jesus Prime wrote:
Acooljt wrote:I have yet to read the Dreams in the Witch House(don't ruin it for me! :evil: )
It was the butler!
Was it in the dining room with the candlestick?
No, it was in the angular room with the leg-bone.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:12 pm
by Adrian
That's nice, comparing Buffy & Co with HPL.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:19 pm
by Jesus Prime
Adrian wrote:That's nice, comparing Buffy & Co with HPL.
I detect sarcasm.