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that's because you lack either the knowledge of those concerns or the resources to research them. i've heard all those claims either refuted or explained in detail by less-biased media. do you really think Obama would have a lead over McCain on the Presidential race if he was an actual terrorist/gangster/Wallstreet puppet?This is what some guy posted in another Obama forum debate and as much as I dislike McCain I can't disprove any of these accusations.
he's not? Obama's tax plan will only raise taxes for the 5% wealthiest individuals while McCain wants tax breaks for big oil companies and a spending freeze.Yes, because McCain is not the chosen puppet by the wealthy financiers.
He's a troll from the now defunct Flat Earth Society forums, and a horrible one at that. He came here to directly annoy me personally, but has not yet understood how short-lived his posting life will be when Aleister gets free time to handle the clock.darrick wrote:are you a McCain fan, an Obama hater, or a conspiracy theorist?
If anyone thinks Mr. Obama is a terrorist, they obviously don't know what a terrorist really is...TheEdge wrote:Dam red commie hands
lol, don't take the easy way out dude, Look at all the dam links I posted above and try to disprove those.Gavin Callaghan wrote:If anyone thinks Mr. Obama is a terrorist, they obviously don't know what a terrorist really is...TheEdge wrote:Dam red commie hands
Anyhow, is the criticism here that Mr. Obama is a terrorist, or a communist? Because, in the case of al Qaeda, the two are mutually-exclusive, at least in terms of philosophical tenets, (if not in terms of active U.S. governmental opposition.) I can't imagine that a theocratic, messianic Islamic sect would have any truck with "atheistic, materialistic" communism...
I do not doubt whether people call Mr. Obama a fascist, as The Edge says. Lots of people are "called" fascists, from the Pope to Steve Ditko to Hilary Clinton. Whether they actually are, is quite another matter...TheEdge wrote: I was joking about the communist thing. Well informed people call him a fascist.
He is a wallstreet puppet sent in to pacify the public so he can speed up the looting of the government. Read my links and stop chasing right wing lunatics. Obama is a puppet. Obama is a judas. Do some research instead of blindly believeing in false saviors.
Obama is continuing all of Bush / Cheneys horrors.Gavin Callaghan wrote:I do not doubt whether people call Mr. Obama a fascist, as The Edge says. Lots of people are "called" fascists, from the Pope to Steve Ditko to Hilary Clinton. Whether they actually are, is quite another matter...TheEdge wrote: I was joking about the communist thing. Well informed people call him a fascist.
He is a wallstreet puppet sent in to pacify the public so he can speed up the looting of the government. Read my links and stop chasing right wing lunatics. Obama is a puppet. Obama is a judas. Do some research instead of blindly believeing in false saviors.
When The Edge says that Mr. Obama is "is a wallstreet puppet", all he is saying is that Mr. Obama is a capitalist politician within a capitalist system. The same was true of John McCain -and for nearly every other politician in the U.S. So as far as this goes, then, Karl Marx would have agreed with The Edge... Whether this makes them "puppets" or not, I guess, depends on how disillusioned one is with the current system.
When The Edge invokes the religious rhetoric of calling Mr. Obama "a judas" and a "false savior", what does he mean? A Judas to whom? If The Edge means a "Judas" to the U.S. Constiution, I don't think -with a record of domestic spying, torture, kidnapping, secret prisons, suspension of habeus corpus, unlimited detentions, et al- one would have to look any farther for blatant betrayal of the rules and spirit of the U.S. Consitution than former President and Vice President, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.
At any rate, it is extremely disingenuous for The Edge to disguise his blatant accusations of treason behind the religious rhetoric of the words "Judas" and "false savior." In truth, all saviors are false. Mr. Obama, from what I can gather, is a sober man, a constitutional scholar, former editor of the Harvard Law Review, and a state senator. Not a savior, but an intelligent, competent man and a hard worker -which is probably what scares his often hysterical opponents most.
Exactly who is this that we seem to be ostrasizing from the temple???decadence wrote:He's a troll from the now defunct Flat Earth Society forums, and a horrible one at that. He came here to directly annoy me personally, but has not yet understood how short-lived his posting life will be when Aleister gets free time to handle the clock.darrick wrote:are you a McCain fan, an Obama hater, or a conspiracy theorist?
Your best bet is to assume any post with the creature's name on it is trash and ignore it completely, lest it gain weight. I already have quarantined myself from it's influence.
