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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:38 am
by darrick
This is what some guy posted in another Obama forum debate and as much as I dislike McCain I can't disprove any of these accusations.
that's because you lack either the knowledge of those concerns or the resources to research them. i've heard all those claims either refuted or explained in detail by less-biased media. do you really think Obama would have a lead over McCain on the Presidential race if he was an actual terrorist/gangster/Wallstreet puppet?

VS

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:00 pm
by TheEdge
Yes, because McCain is not the chosen puppet by the wealthy financiers. You think the money GoldmanSachs is placing in Baracks pockets are there for no reason other than good faith?

Look through that list again and post one article that disproves it.

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:33 pm
by darrick
Yes, because McCain is not the chosen puppet by the wealthy financiers.
he's not? Obama's tax plan will only raise taxes for the 5% wealthiest individuals while McCain wants tax breaks for big oil companies and a spending freeze.

are you a McCain fan, an Obama hater, or a conspiracy theorist? i'm just curious. all politicians have money coming in from... guess where? not the poor or middle class, but from lobbyists and wealthy corporations. politicians need money to run their campaign. washington and wall st. need money to keep the legislative and financial backbones of the country solvent.

since you know all the insider info, what dastardly plan does Obama have for our nation once he becomes President? and why don't the American people know about it?

and the tenuous link between Ayres and company is ridiculous. you know that, right? Obama was 8 years old when the Weathermen radicals (not terrorists) were active. that's why McCain didn't bring up any of that when face to face with Obama during the last debate. it's just a smear tactic. and despicable.


VS

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:47 pm
by decadence
darrick wrote:are you a McCain fan, an Obama hater, or a conspiracy theorist?
He's a troll from the now defunct Flat Earth Society forums, and a horrible one at that. He came here to directly annoy me personally, but has not yet understood how short-lived his posting life will be when Aleister gets free time to handle the clock.

:roll:

Your best bet is to assume any post with the creature's name on it is trash and ignore it completely, lest it gain weight. I already have quarantined myself from it's influence.

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:03 pm
by TheEdge
This is another list I cannot disprove from another forum. With links attached. As you can see they were attempting to discredit him by taking of moon landing deniers.


ELEVEN FLAVORS OF SCANDALS

Also I'm not even mentioning the Larry Sinclair and Donald Young Scandal. Look those up yourself.

I don't know too much about Moon Landings BUT I do know that Obama is a fake and corrupt puppet.

Tell Penn & Teller to stick to pulling rabbits out of hats and telling us second hand smoke is healthy




1. Creature of the Ford Foundation
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... VVJJRK.DTL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zlywNGbViM <---Video

2. Involved with Gangster Tony Rezko
http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/ ... 24.article
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... ption.html

3. Involved with Bill Ayres and Bernadine Dorhn (Weathermen Terrorist Bombers)
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/st ... 83,00.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV_h-XwchkY <--- VIDEO

4. Owned lock stock and barrel by Wallstreet (Mainly Goldman Sachs)

http://www.the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bi ... rtNum=5420


5. Voted against Low income Heating for Maine (OBAMA TO MAINE: DROP DEAD)

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/30917


6. Voted for the FISA (Destroy the 4th Amendment) Bill

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-tr ... sitio.html



7. Voted and lobbied for the WALLSTREET - GOLDMAN SACHS BANKER BAILOUT and the looting of the American treasury for bankrupt and worthless gambling paper debts of these investment banks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEvdL-GPjFk <-----VIDEO

8. Wants the continue the wars and START new wars with Pakistan which he said last night in the debate WITHOUT Pakistani permission. OPEN SEASON ON PAKISTAN CIVILIANS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw2XTC1V4fk <----Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTwUAAmR ... re=related


9. Wants to keep NAFTA (Lose jobs to third world slave labor)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caOdV7KHh_Y <---- VIDEO



10. Involved in voter Fraud

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM708EjH0bs <---- VIDEO

11. Not a Legal Citizen

http://www.obamacrimes.com/

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:15 pm
by decadence
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Obama

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:03 pm
by Gavin Callaghan
TheEdge wrote:Dam red commie hands
If anyone thinks Mr. Obama is a terrorist, they obviously don't know what a terrorist really is...

Anyhow, is the criticism here that Mr. Obama is a terrorist, or a communist? Because, in the case of al Qaeda, the two are mutually-exclusive, at least in terms of philosophical tenets, (if not in terms of active U.S. governmental opposition.) I can't imagine that a theocratic, messianic Islamic sect would have any truck with "atheistic, materialistic" communism...

Re: Obama

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:07 pm
by TheEdge
Gavin Callaghan wrote:
TheEdge wrote:Dam red commie hands
If anyone thinks Mr. Obama is a terrorist, they obviously don't know what a terrorist really is...

Anyhow, is the criticism here that Mr. Obama is a terrorist, or a communist? Because, in the case of al Qaeda, the two are mutually-exclusive, at least in terms of philosophical tenets, (if not in terms of active U.S. governmental opposition.) I can't imagine that a theocratic, messianic Islamic sect would have any truck with "atheistic, materialistic" communism...
lol, don't take the easy way out dude, Look at all the dam links I posted above and try to disprove those.

I was joking about the communist thing. Well informed people call him a fascist.

He is a wallstreet puppet sent in to pacify the public so he can speed up the looting of the government. Read my links and stop chasing right wing lunatics. Obama is a puppet. Obama is a judas. Do some research instead of blindly believeing in false saviors.

Re: Obama

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:44 pm
by Gavin Callaghan
TheEdge wrote: I was joking about the communist thing. Well informed people call him a fascist.

He is a wallstreet puppet sent in to pacify the public so he can speed up the looting of the government. Read my links and stop chasing right wing lunatics. Obama is a puppet. Obama is a judas. Do some research instead of blindly believeing in false saviors.
I do not doubt whether people call Mr. Obama a fascist, as The Edge says. Lots of people are "called" fascists, from the Pope to Steve Ditko to Hilary Clinton. Whether they actually are, is quite another matter...

When The Edge says that Mr. Obama is "is a wallstreet puppet", all he is saying is that Mr. Obama is a capitalist politician within a capitalist system. The same was true of John McCain -and for nearly every other politician in the U.S. So as far as this goes, then, Karl Marx would have agreed with The Edge... Whether this makes them "puppets" or not, I guess, depends on how disillusioned one is with the current system.

When The Edge invokes the religious rhetoric of calling Mr. Obama "a judas" and a "false savior", what does he mean? A Judas to whom? If The Edge means a "Judas" to the U.S. Constiution, I don't think -with a record of domestic spying, torture, kidnapping, secret prisons, suspension of habeus corpus, unlimited detentions, et al- one would have to look any farther for blatant betrayal of the rules and spirit of the U.S. Consitution than former President and Vice President, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.

At any rate, it is extremely disingenuous for The Edge to disguise his blatant accusations of treason behind the religious rhetoric of the words "Judas" and "false savior." In truth, all saviors are false. Mr. Obama, from what I can gather, is a sober man, a constitutional scholar, former editor of the Harvard Law Review, and a state senator. Not a savior, but an intelligent, competent man and a hard worker -which is probably what scares his often hysterical opponents most.

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:45 pm
by tsathoggua
Heres my opinion on this...
http://catalog.chaosium.com/images/CHA0087[/img]

Re: Obama

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:35 am
by TheEdge
Gavin Callaghan wrote:
TheEdge wrote: I was joking about the communist thing. Well informed people call him a fascist.

He is a wallstreet puppet sent in to pacify the public so he can speed up the looting of the government. Read my links and stop chasing right wing lunatics. Obama is a puppet. Obama is a judas. Do some research instead of blindly believeing in false saviors.
I do not doubt whether people call Mr. Obama a fascist, as The Edge says. Lots of people are "called" fascists, from the Pope to Steve Ditko to Hilary Clinton. Whether they actually are, is quite another matter...

When The Edge says that Mr. Obama is "is a wallstreet puppet", all he is saying is that Mr. Obama is a capitalist politician within a capitalist system. The same was true of John McCain -and for nearly every other politician in the U.S. So as far as this goes, then, Karl Marx would have agreed with The Edge... Whether this makes them "puppets" or not, I guess, depends on how disillusioned one is with the current system.

When The Edge invokes the religious rhetoric of calling Mr. Obama "a judas" and a "false savior", what does he mean? A Judas to whom? If The Edge means a "Judas" to the U.S. Constiution, I don't think -with a record of domestic spying, torture, kidnapping, secret prisons, suspension of habeus corpus, unlimited detentions, et al- one would have to look any farther for blatant betrayal of the rules and spirit of the U.S. Consitution than former President and Vice President, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.

At any rate, it is extremely disingenuous for The Edge to disguise his blatant accusations of treason behind the religious rhetoric of the words "Judas" and "false savior." In truth, all saviors are false. Mr. Obama, from what I can gather, is a sober man, a constitutional scholar, former editor of the Harvard Law Review, and a state senator. Not a savior, but an intelligent, competent man and a hard worker -which is probably what scares his often hysterical opponents most.
Obama is continuing all of Bush / Cheneys horrors.

More troops to the Fake war in Afghanistan, no rights for tortured goat herders in Gitmo, and all the money for Wall Street parasites while leaving the scraps for the American working class.

I'm a Democrat and I know that Obama is a puppet of the finacial elites. Hes a fake and I'm not afraid to say it.

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:57 pm
by tsathoggua
decadence wrote:
darrick wrote:are you a McCain fan, an Obama hater, or a conspiracy theorist?
He's a troll from the now defunct Flat Earth Society forums, and a horrible one at that. He came here to directly annoy me personally, but has not yet understood how short-lived his posting life will be when Aleister gets free time to handle the clock.

:roll:

Your best bet is to assume any post with the creature's name on it is trash and ignore it completely, lest it gain weight. I already have quarantined myself from it's influence.
Exactly who is this that we seem to be ostrasizing from the temple???

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:43 am
by TheEdge
Me. :)

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:03 pm
by tsathoggua
Oh right
I mean damn nobody replied to my post